Have Your Say! What Do You, The Reader Think?
An interesting topic to be discussed or pondered over
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HOORAY FOR HOLLYWOOD?
by Richard Tearle
Does anyone else cringe when they
read that Hollywood's next blockbuster is going to be a film based on a piece
of European (and, or more especially, British) history? Do you anticipate lines
such as: 'Dare stands da house o' my fadder' or 'This truly was da Son of
Guard'? Do you object to big name American stars playing Robin Hood, Spartacus,
William Wallace and so on? Should the credibility of both hero and story be
sacrificed for (almost) guaranteed box office success?
Theatrical release poster by Reynold Brown |
Or am I being overly biased in
thinking that British Heroes should be played by British actors or actresses?
And that scripts should stick as much as possible to either the true known
facts, legend basics or the story of the book it is adapted from? Of course there
are exceptions: Meryl Streep, for
example, is an amazingly fine actress,
can 'adopt' an accent at will and will still be convincing: witness The Iron
Lady and the film about the woman whose baby was 'stolen' by dingos. So too
Robert Downey Jr – Chaplin and Sherlock Holmes being good examples. The actor
playing Uhtred in the TV series The Last Kingdom is German, but has enough of a
Northern European 'accent' to carry it off. In my opinion.
Let me throw it open to the
authors amongst you. You are offered a large sum to sell the rights of your
book to a Hollywood film company, but are allowed little or no say in it's
stars or even some 'plot changes'. Would
you be happy with, say, Ryan Gosling as Jesamiah Acorne, Matt Damon as Alvar or
Cameron Diaz as Aurelia Mitela or even Aethelflaed, fine actors though they may
be? OK, names plucked out of a list of top box office stars, but you get what I
mean. Would you be prepared to sacrifice the authenticity you have worked hard
at to achieve in your books for the luxuries that a huge success could bring?
It doesn't quite work like that I know, but again, I think you understand what
I'm trying to say.
[Helen says: short answer. No.]
And yet. And yet.....as a child,
I loved The Vikings and Spartacus (both with Kirk Douglas), Ben Hur, The Robe
and other Biblical epics. Cleopatra. Historically, mostly hokum. But they had
their effect, their charm, their visions of heroism and their colourful
costumes, expansive sets and the fact that it rarely rained. Even in those
days, the British actors involved spoke in the clipped, very-Queen's English.
No regional accents at all. Is that preferable to some more recent TV or film
versions, such as '300' which is all very dark and computer generated, yet
possibly more realistic in terms of violence and costume? Another example: one
of my favourite books is King Solomon's Mines by Henry Rider Haggard. At least
three films have been made and all are very, very far from the original story.
For one thing, Quartermain is 'a grizzled, old hunter'. And there are only two
women in the entire book (no comments on that bit, please!): one is the evil
Gagool, who is of 'indeterminable' age and the other is the beautiful Foulata
who falls in love with Capt Good but sadly dies. How I wish someone would make
the film the very story deserves!
Charlton Heston - Ben Hur |
And what about the sets and
props? Have they never actually been inside a castle? Those of us who have (and
I suspect that is most of us who are history buffs!), know that one does not simply 'bound' up and
down the wide, shallow steps, sword in
hand knocking the villains into the stair well. Real castles have very narrow,
winding staircases where you could not get two abreast, let alone have a fight!
Heraldry was not really organised until the time of Richard III, yet we have
these beautifully painted, garish and complicated shields, surcoats and horse
trappings and where the villain is more
often than not seen sporting a shield containing a large black eagle whilst
attempting to find 'Rarbin' Hood.
I'm just curious, you see.
Curious to know whether anyone agrees with me or whether I just have some
unworthy and unfounded dislike of Hollywood scriptwriters and directors
destroying a good (or true) story and using stars speaking in accents that
would not have been heard for, in some cases, many hundreds of years after the
events portrayed.
In the excellent Mel Brooks
spoof, Robin Hood: Men in Tights, the Hollywood star, Cory Elwes (who is, in
fact, English!) says “Unlike some other Robin Hoods, I can speak with an
English accent!” (Kevin Costner's 'Prince of Thieves' version had been released
only a short time previously). Alternatively, my schoolboy chum, actor James
Cosmo, said of Braveheart (in which he appears as 'Campbell'): “Historically
rubbish, but great fun to do.”
So what do you think, authors and
readers? And who would you love to see cast in the roles that you have created
or would love to see filmed? (No, Helen, Johnny Depp has already done a pirate
role and we don't want to typecast him now do we? Do we?)
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I think it would make me wince a lot to hear my twelfth century characters speaking with American accents. But...if I was offered a vast sum of money for the rights...maybe, just maybe, I could bite my tongue and hold my hand out. Lol, dream on, Loretta!
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ReplyDeleteThank you, Loretta, for your comment and for sharing. It would be a tough decision!!!
DeleteI think the operative phrase in your column is: "...as a child, I loved..." I did too. Now, as an adult, I expect more realistic presentations of times, places and people. More egregious to me, at least, is the use of white actors, be they European or American, in roles representing asian characters.
ReplyDeleteyes, I agree - I loved those films then for the reasons I stated (and still do!) but I do demand more realism now that I am older and know more. Casting will always be contentious when the lead is not of the same nationality or culture of the character and it can lead to laughable portrayals - but I keep thinking of Ben Kingsley as Ghandi and can't think of anyone better.
DeleteThank you Loretta and John (and Richard for writing the article!) For myself I think it depends on the movie and how it is presented - "The real story of..." the "How it really was" marketing is so often utter nonsense because the movie (or TV drama) so obviously ISN'T true history. Presented as an adventure yarn, however, then it is just that.
ReplyDeleteTake three movies: Robin hood (Kevin Costner) Braveheart and the first Pirates of the Caribbean movie.
Robin Hood was a thoroughly enjoyable movie - none of it was meant to depict real history (let's face it Robin Hood as we perceive him now never actually existed) The movie was let down by Costner's poor English accent - fiasr enough, he IS American, but I recall at the time that he wanted English coaching so he could fix the accent, but the film producers said no. Sadly it is always Costner who gets the blame for this. But actually does it matter? It is a movie, a fun-based made-up movie made to entertain. It is not a historical documentary. Braveheart. Good movie made stupid by the Hollywoodisation of the silly romance between Wallace and the Queen and that darn-awful; utterly stupid ending. Death by hanging, drawing & quartering was bad enough, it didn't have to be made to look ridiculous. P.O.C. again a fun movie. Pirate author David Cordingly
brought on board as historical adviser, apparently refused to have anything to do with it once it was made, and the next ones, because of the historical inaccuracy. Um...what bit of skeletons that aren't dead and magic treasure did Mr Corrdingly not understand? Did he not read the script? P.O.C. was purely for entertainment - however it did spark several thousand people to renew an interest in the reality of pirastes, me included! Movies, TV drama and to a certain extent, novels, have a prime function which is TO ENTERTAIN. If you want the facts read non-fiction and watch documentaries.
Having said that, authors, script writers and producers do also have a 'duty of care' to pay attention to the facts!
Thank you, Helen, very well put. It might be worth mentioning that Christian Slater was also in Prince of Thieves and turns out to be Robin's brother.
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